Here is another independent review about the ASEA scam. In my research on ASEA I have found mostly good revigeneric cialis no prescriptionews with very few bad ones. Seems the bad ones are done by those who have NOT used the product. This is one of the positive ones.
Review done by Tim Borgeson
Asea is one of the newer MLM businesses out there today. They join a large group of network marketing companies that offer a health and wellness product as well as providing its reps who sign up an opportunity to resell the product.
But is it a good deal? Let’s take a look.
The company has a proprietary product that claims to provide health benefits by designing a drink that has a perfect balance of reactive molecules that the company claims will support the immune and healing systems. This is a unique retail opportunity.
Asea’s founders Verdis Norton and James Pack both bring excellent leadership and business skills to the table.
The company has decided to utilize the network marketing business model to sell the product. This is not all bad. Especially for those who truly know how to and understand marketing. The problem is most get involved looking for an easy way to get into a business opportunity and make some money. Most will be told make lists of friends and family and sample out the products. While this may work for getting a few into the business, most will deplete this source and then they are out of business.
Asea can be a good opportunity, it definitely is not a scam, especially if you are into a more modern approach to health and wellness. Generally a company that first comes out with a proprietary product will do well. However, for an individual to truly grow a sustainable down line they MUST learn how to properly create a targeted market who are looking for these products. With some work this can be a good business deal.
Tim Borgeson is a professional marketer who takes great pride in helping other entrepreneurs build and expand their business using sound marketing principles to ensure positive business growth and establish long term success. Tim has marketed several different products and services and has been involved in sales of over $14 million dollars in the direct-marketing industry in the past 4 years alone.
Don’t join ASEA or any other Health supplement until you read this. Its no wonder articles about the so called ASEA scam and scams about other Health products are circulating around the internet. Do your homework on anything you are interested in. It will usually prove advantageous.
Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen
July 7th, 2003
I need to make something clear. DO NOT, for a minute, think that the quackpot soldiers you see, like Stephen Barrett, and Robert Baratz, are running the whole quackbuster operation. They are not bright enough. They are the ones the quackbuster paymasters want us all to see. They’re the front men. They’ve got their function, but it’s only part of the game.
I think the whole “Quackbuster” conspiracy, and I have documents that back up my thinking, is being run out of a conference room at a pharmaceutical advertising agency in New York City. It’s there that all the decisions, and plans are made, about where to focus the campaign, who to attack, and what cards to play in each attack. It’s there that the checks are written.
Want some proof? It’s coming. I’m working with P. J. (Joe) Lisa to re-publish his 1995 book “Assault on Medical Freedom.” The new book will have, some changes, and four new chapters, bringing the conspiracy up to date. The information Joe, I, and some others are gathering, although for the book, will be also for delivery to Attorney General John Ashcroft and some others. Joe Lisa has thousands of pages of documents. We think there’s enough for a Justice Department RICO (racketeering) complaint.
The quackbuster operation in North America is simply a scam devised around the time the American Medical Association lost a Federal Court Case to the Chiropractors in 1987. It’s function is to eliminate, suppress, or hamper with, anything that competes with the sale of drugs and surgery. It’s here to make sure that “treatment,” rather than “prevention,” or “a cure,” stays the “standard of care” in North American Health Care.
The quackbusters have shifted focus. Today, I’m going to tell you what the new focus is, how it’s being organized and run, and who has, and is going to be attacked, and why. In another newsletter I’m going to tell you how we, in the North American Health Freedom Movement are going to crush it.
For them, it’s all about pharmaceuticals controlling the North American Health market. For us, it’s about getting real health care, right now.
For years, quackbusting centered around the Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB) operation. State Medical Board Members, Prosecutors, Investigators, Management, etc., were propagandized to believe that anything new in health care that wasn’t drugs, or surgery, oriented, was health fraud. Their assignment, should they choose to take it (and not many of them did), was to terrorize MDs who embraced new things, and to attack non-MDs with “practicing medicine without a license.”
But the North American Health Freedom Movement woke up one morning and decided to kick the crap out of them. Health Freedom Bills, defenses of practitioners, exposes, you-name-it tactics, all began to work. EVERYTHING we did worked very well. We’re winning everywhere.
The focus has been shifted since the quackbuster paymasters discovered that (1) Barrett, and company, just can’t deliver the goods, anymore. And (2) Robert Baratz, the current President of the National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF). who was brought up from the minor leagues with high hopes, is turning out to be an amusing (for us) embarrassment (for them).
Now, the quackbusters are using the FTC/FDA “Operation Cure-All” as their platform. Herein, I’ll detail how I think they’re doing it. In another newsletter I’ll tell you how simple it will be to thwart them – one more time.
What’s this “Operation Cure-All” thing?
Upper management at the FTC and the FDA think they put this plan together to stop internet health fraud. I’m sure they had the best of intentions. But don’t be fooled, it’s a quackbuster operation. Not one run by the stooges, like Barrett, or Baratz, or Sampson, this is an exercise of the REAL quackbusters – those funding the whole anti-health care, preserve the drug/surgery status quo, operation. The whole plan was, no doubt, written in the back room of a pharmaceutical advertising agency, for a fee that would stagger the imagination. It reeks of big Pharma thinking. Barrett, et al, are Keystone Kops in this venue.
Timothy Muris, at the FTC, and Mark McClellan, at FDA, are the targets of a drug company funded scam to use their agencies to kill off upstart competitors of the drug industry. So far, they’re unaware of this – so let’s fix that.
The majority of employees of the FTC, FDA and Operation Cure-All apparently don’t know, either, they are being USED to attack the very upstart competition the drug companies fear the most – supplements (that keep people healthy – so they don’t need drug “treatment”), electro-medicine (that replaces drugs, without side effects), chelation (detoxification eliminates need for drugs), natural antibiotics (Like Colloidal Silver, Frankincense, Oregano Oil), and scientists and authors (like Hulda Regehr Clark PhD, Naturopath) who advocate a change in the way America delivers health care.
What we’ll probably have to do is to get a RICO/Civil rights, and Conspiracy to Violate Civil Rights, action, going against those controlling and manipulating it, and those FTC, FDA, and Operation Cure-All employees involved in the scam. We’ll need to get Attorney General John Ashcroft involved in this, as well as FDA Internal Affairs, and the Inspector General at the FTC.
So, what’s “Operation Cure-All” up to? You can go to the self-promoting website “://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/06/cureall.htm” and read the sanctimonious words:
“Operation Cure-All” Wages New Battle in Ongoing War Against Internet Health Fraud
FTC, FDA and other law enforcement agencies move to stop Internet scams for supplements and other products that purport to cure cancer, HIV/AIDS and countless other life-threatening diseases. FTC also warns of risks associated with some supplements, including drug interactions.”
Sounds good, but the worm in the apple is that the definition of “health fraud” is the one written in a conference room of a pharmaceutical advertising agency. They might as well have come out openly, and said “if it competes with big Pharma, it’s health fraud, and we’re against it.”
The other REALLY bad thing about the FTC and the FDA is the huge amount of INTERNAL influence big pharma has on FTC and FDA thinking. When Dwight Eisenhower left the Presidency, one of the last things he did was to stop the revolving door between the Defense Department and Defense contractors. That has to happen with the FTC/FDA and big pharma – right now. Before America dies of a drug overdose.
Here’s how the scam works…
Fact #1: The FTC/FDA system requires that claims about products must be based on “scientific proof.” In translation, that means that every claim, or suggested claim, must be double-blind studied in 30 to 50 cities (usually on the inner city poor), and the “studies” will cost somewhere between 200 to 400 million dollars each. Since herbals, and natural supplements, can’t be patented, the FTC/FDA system has effectively given big Pharma a monopoly on approvals – since only big Pharma can afford the testing procedure.
Gee, I wonder how that happened? Sarcasm intended.
Fact #2: The FTC won’t allow “testimonials.” To them, someone saying “I, and 300 of my friends did this thing, and all of us were cured of cancer, and here’s our medical records to prove it,” is inadequate information. The reality of a “cure” is not in their vocabulary. It’s still “unproven,” and, according to them, you can’t tell anyone about it. Saving lives, by passing around information, is to them, a criminal act.
The FTC/FDA’ Operation Cure-All, doesn’t want anything to do with reality. It gets in the way.
So, when big Pharma sees that somebody is cutting a little too deep into, or just threatening the future of, their drug market, checks are written, and a meeting takes place in New York City. There a plan (a standard format plan) is made. And the execution begins on Monday.
Here’s how they do it.
The quackbusters decide who they’re going to hit. The advertising agency (which controls major drug advertising placement) writes up the stories that are going to be distributed to their “letter writing brigade.” The letter writers, following the guidelines, then write to the FTC, the FDA, and Operation Cure-All, to set a basis for the complaint. Then the ad agency writes stories, getting quotes from the likes of Barrett, Baratz, etc., on the victim. The stories are sent out to the media in which the advertising agency’s drug clients advertise. The stories are printed in the media as though they were true.
Once the stories hit the press, a second wave of letters goes out to the FTC, the FDA, and Operation Cure-All, to put pressure on upper management to act. Then more media is generated, this time with quotes from the quackbuster insider FTC employees to make it sound official that the FTC is interested. Once this happens, letters and phone calls go out from supposedly “irate consumers (quackbusters),” once again to the FTC, the FDA, and Operation Cure-All upper management, demanding to know why they aren’t doing something.
Then, letters and phone calls go out from supposedly “irate consumers (quackbusters)” to certain members of Congress demanding to know why the FTC, the FDA, and Operation Cure-All, aren’t doing something.
Within days, upper management of the FTC, the FDA, and Operation Cure-All, are deluged with questions from more media, and Congress. They see the issue as important, and act against the victim – even if their is little or no evidence.
After this, some poor bastard is fighting for his life, while the plotters pop open a case of $1,000 a bottle champagne, congratulating themselves for another hit against their competitor…. And, more checks are written.
This is, I believe, how the attack was organized against the Rife equipment manufacturers, Bob Barefoot Coral Calcium, SeaSilver, the Colloidal Silver proponents, etc… I have good reason to believe that EVERY ONE of the Operation Cure-All targets, right from the beginning, was arranged this way.
For a sample of how it’s done, click here for the petition, and here for the signers where the quackpots were attempting to stop the whole science of Homeopathy. They failed…
So, why this new assault? Because the quackbusters are, basically, floundering. The old plan wasn’t working.
Why are the quackbusters floundering?
The quackbuster operation in North America is floundering for a number of reasons.
The number (1) reason is that the quackbusters underestimated the intelligence of the North American health consumer. Those consumers don’t trust conventional medicine, anymore. Americans can sense when they are being lied to.
(2) Americans have discovered “health,” and they’ve worked out for themselves that “health” and “medicine” aren’t the same thing.
(3) Americans have worked out that that expensive “health plan” is a big waste of money – because all it pays for is “medicine.” It doesn’t pay for “health care.” Insurance companies, and the US Government have caught on – and are adding new billing codes (ABC Codes) to deal with reality and demand. The American consumer, right now, is buying “health” out of their discretionary income – and the total amount of that is more than half of the total US health dollar.
(4) The North American Health Freedom Movement is kicking the crap out of the quackbusters whenever, and wherever, they meet on a battlefield.
(5) The whole idea of restricting American’s health care offering to drugs and surgery is un-American. Even conventional MDs are getting fed up with the idea that “nothing new should be used in medicine unless it’s been approved by a failed MD working out of his basement in Pennsylvania.”
(6) The people of New York State are waking up to the fact that right there, in their midst, is a cesspool of quackbuster activity. Not only New York City, but Buffalo. Plans are being made. Targets are being selected.
(7) In the end, GOOD always triumphs over EVIL.
We, in the North American Health Freedom Movement, need to destroy the quackbuster operation. For, Americans are suffering and dying. Nobody is going to fix this problem but us. We are the ones who understand what’s happening. We also know what to do, and how to do it. So, let’s do it.
Tim Bolen – Consumer Advocate
If you have read this far, maybe we should take another look at the so called ASEA scam. Here is some more info on ASEA and the benefits some people are receiving. Sometimes getting the information from the horses mouth is better than listening to hearsay or from someone who has never used the product. Just my two cents.
Dr. Dave Carpenter is a Naturopathic Doctor and an Acupuncturist with over 20 years of clinical experience. He is the owner of the wellness clinic, Path To Health in Idaho Falls, Idaho and has a large national and international following. Dr. Carpenter is an author and is in great demand as a lecturer and teacher.
Just out of curiosity I did a search on “ASEA Scam”
Here is one persons opinion she called the ASEA scam.
The Business Desbuy cialis onlineign:
Asea is the latest Multilevel network marketing opportunity based in the health and wellness industry. The company believes they have a solid product and a solid compensation structure to help many into health and fiscal security.
Asea is the first and only stable, perfectly balanced mixture of these reactive molecules that exists outside the body and can be used to help keep up proper balance inside the body to support the immune system and healing process.
Asea is a ground-contravention, patented supplement that enhances cell communication on a cellular level to allow cells to experience the maximum health, healing and performance. This clinically proven and veteran supplement has been proven in research to provide a 12% increase in patience markers. Qualified safe.
The company thinks they have a rock-hard product and a safe comp plot to help many into health and economic security. Asea’s chief product is built on a supplement that is said to aid in slowing down aging effects.
Asea could be a safe company. Let me additionally say that I am not in the company, be it on their company quality or as a distributor.
That being said, I’m going to take in as to why, in my view they’re a excellent company and it is a excellent business opportunity, but with one huge caveat, that I am going to go into soon enough.
The corporation is listed in the Better Business Bureau, and if that isn’t sensible enough already, since a ton of corporations are not, they also have a B+ rating, which is darn sensible I might say, considering the industry they’re in where heaps of non-legitimate corporations operate. They’ve been listed there since September of 2007 with zero reported as so much as any problems go that needed to be learned or addressed. This credential lonely already puts them far higher than the rest.
They don’t appear to be a public company by the simple searches I’ve done on them, and there were not any observable descriptions of that on their web site concerning to it. I usually search for this in a company because being regulated by the SEC adds to credibility. This noticeable lack of item nonetheless might simply coincide with the early stages of the company simply judging by the year of their Better Business Bureau item and domain name registration, which was December 2008.
Not several companies will go public solely a few years into operation, therefore that should not be held against them. The company has solid management with vision and know-how. Their product are backed by knowledge and are in an exceedingly niche that’s widely acknowledged. They have with them all the makings of a fantastic success tale to unfold.
So, in conclusion, the company is a strong one and looks to be a fantastic venture in the wellness arena. To make the best of this business, a new person wants to have the skills and leadership that can nail-down the distributors’ success. The company may not be able to weather the competition and choose another way of distributing its products, like Xlr8 did in 2009, and the people that depend on a company to be there are in for a surprise.
This is just one ASEA scam post I found. I will post more as I find them. This is not my opinion as I am a ASEA associate. I think it is a great company and have done well with it.
Here is a link you should visit before you join. It is Dr. Dave Carpenter’s experience with ASEA. Dr. Dave Carpenter is a Naturopathic Doctor and an Acupuncturist with over 20 years of clinical experience. He is the owner of the wellness clinic, Path To Health in Idaho Falls, Idaho and has a large national and international following. Dr. Carpenter is an author and is in great demand as a lecturer and teacher
You can also visit http://whymolecules.com for more information.